Joey’s Song
Joey's Song raises money to fund research into treatments and cures for epilepsy. We host concerts featuring Rock Roll Hall of Famers, Grammy winners and Top 40 artists. On the podcast we talk with our artists, industry leaders and our key contributors to find out what makes Joey's Song so important to them.
To learn more about Joey's Song visit us at Joeyssong.org and follow us on social media @joeyssong on all the popular platforms.
Joey’s Song
Chloe Homan & Crystal Ketterhagen - Joey's Song Advocates & Community Builders
Ever wondered how the power of music can change lives? Join us as we explore Joey's Song, a charity making a significant impact in the epilepsy community through music. Our guests, Chloe Homan and Crystal Ketterhanger, share their incredible journeys and contributions to Madison, Wisconsin. Chloe reveals her transition from corporate America to creating a thriving business with 600,000 followers focused on curly hair care. Together, we uncover the essential role of community support, influencers, and local leaders in the success of Joey's Song and its hallmark event, the Freezing Man festival.
Imagine a space where technology meets spirituality, and human intuition is celebrated as a superpower. We delve into this fascinating intersection, discussing how modern advancements like Web3 are resonating with our innate capabilities. The conversation emphasizes the importance of building and nurturing communities during these transformative times, drawing parallels to the co-creative spirit that fuels Joey's Song benefit concerts. Through personal stories and reflections, we underline the collective growth and mutual learning that are crucial in our rapidly evolving world.
Get ready for some behind-the-scenes insights as we discuss the exciting and meticulous journey of organizing a week-long concert series featuring iconic bands like The Bangles, Belly, and Portugal. The Man. From the camaraderie among artists and fans to the impactful educational aspects of Joey's Song, we capture the essence of what makes these events special. We also share unforgettable live concert moments that showcase the magic of spontaneous performances and audience interactions. To wrap up, we encourage you to support Joey's Song by engaging with our content and joining us at future events to continue making a difference in the fight against epilepsy.
Visit www.joeyssong.org to learn more about Joey's Song and the work we do and get details on our next set of shows. Also be sure to follow us on all popular social media platforms with our handle @joeyssong
Joey's Song is a federally registered 501(c)3 charity that raises money to fund research into treatments and cures for epilepsy. Joey's Song is 100% volunteer with no paid staff, so we are able to convert more dollars into life saving research.
Our Joey's Song family of artists include Rock N Roll Hall of Famers, Grammy and Emmy winners and Top 40 hitmakers.
Hey everybody, welcome to the Joey Song Podcast. I'm your host, mike Gamal. For those of you that are new to Joey Song, we're a 501c3 charity that raises money to fund research into treatments and cures for epilepsy. We also direct funds to support patient services and community programs as well. Our fundraising vehicle is music. Every year, we hold a series of concerts that feature Rock and Roll Hall of Famers, grammy winners and Top 40 hit makers. These amazing artists all come to Madison, wisconsin, each January for a festival that we call Freezing man. You should know that every one of the artists that plays at our event donates their time and talent. None of our performers take a penny to join us. We have no paid staff. We are a 100% volunteer organization. The next Freezing man is scheduled to take place January 8th through the 11th 2025, with six amazing shows scheduled over four days. To find out more about Joey's Song, you can find us at our website, joey'songorg, or follow us on social media, where all of our handles are at Joey's Song.
Speaker 1:Hey everybody, welcome to the Joey's Song podcast. So, on this episode, it's really interesting as Joey Song continues to grow. It's not just our artists, it's not just the people that come to the show. It's the greater community around the Madison area that helps us grow, whether it's our sponsors or community leaders or influencers. And today we're going to talk to a couple ladies who are I guess I don't know if the category is influencers or not, but I'm old, so that's what I get to call them.
Speaker 1:So Chloe Holman and Crystal Kellerhanger are both here and they're going to talk about their businesses. They're going to talk a little bit about Joey Song and the Madison community. It's a really interesting conversation with a couple ladies who have made their own way in the business community and have created really, really interesting brands and really, really interesting communities. So stick around for my conversation with Chloe and Crystal. Hey everybody, it's Mike Amol. Welcome to the Joey Song Podcast. We are continuing in our series of talking to the folks in the Joey Song ecosystem the influencers, the sponsors, the artists, just about everybody that has anything to do with Joey Song. I'm really pleased today to have Chloe and Crystal with me. They have vowed we will spend most of the time talking about fashion until they saw how I was dressed and realized you may as well talk to the dogs about staying off the furniture, because I have nothing to add to this with my sweatshirt on, but Chloe and Crystal welcome.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having us. We're excited to be here.
Speaker 3:Yes thank you, Mike Yep.
Speaker 1:So this is the first time. So we are talking to influencers in the Madison area and, through our mutual friend Joanna Burrish, is how we are here talking today and as we've grown Joey's song to let me sit down as I say the six concerts over four days. So yeah, yeah, well, that's one way to say I've got a few.
Speaker 1:I've got a few other adjectives for it exciting is not one of them um, we realize that we really need to reach out to the community, and so Joanna, who is on our board and has been an ardent supporter, when we're talking about who else can we talk to and get into the ecosystem, literally. When I was doing her podcast a couple of weeks ago, I don't even think we had finished and she was pulling out her phone texting you guys, we've got to get Chloe.
Speaker 1:Crystal yeah, that's her. So it may even be at the end of the last podcast, I don't know. But before we go into that, let's talk a little bit about each of you and what you do for a living or for fun or for anything, what you want to tell folks, chloe since you're on my left first here, why don't you start?
Speaker 2:Perfect, happy to so. Hi, I'm Chloe Homan. I have a couple businesses, so we'll start with the one that came first, which goes with the influencer side, which is frizz and frills. I created that back in 2018. So I've been doing that for what? Six years now, and so that whole side is all about curls. I teach people how to love their curls, how to style them, what products to use. We do some reviews over there, and then a little bit of lifestyle content as well, and so we've built a community of I think, at this point, right around 600,000 across.
Speaker 1:Unbelievable. Wow. I've got colics, but I don't think that would Wow 600,000. That's amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's crazy, right, there's a lot of curlies in this world.
Speaker 1:If somebody had told you back when you were starting it in 2018, I mean, we all dream of success but, I can't imagine that
Speaker 2:600,000 was in your uh no, because when I started it I was working, you know, in corporate America. I was in business to business, sales, and what I was missing was the creative side. I I hadn't been in that creative side pretty much, uh, for work, and since, like college, when I studied graphic design and advertising, yeah, and so I was like, you know, I just really want to, you know, get that part of me filled absolutely. And so I was like, well, you know, blogging was a thing at that time especially, and so I was like I'll start a blog and I'll you know, do the Instagram thing and I'll just do that on the side as like a little hobby project and to feed your creative, exactly, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I was like, okay, I'll do that. And then it wasn't about. Like three months later I was like you know what? I think I could do this as a business. And so I I started to pedal to the metal. I was working 80 hour weeks, you know, working my full-time job doing that. Seeing if I could make that work, less than a year later, quit my full-time job went full-time with it.
Speaker 1:That was going to be my next question is when did, when were you able to make the leap from?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so about a year, so that was yeah, right about a year after I had you know just kind of like dipped my toe into it, so that would have been fall of 2019 that I left corporate.
Speaker 1:Just as COVID's about to hit.
Speaker 2:Just as COVID, yes, which was terrifying, oh man, yeah, it was already terrifying in the fall and then six months later, not knowing whether you know my contracts were going to. You know, stay up or stay honored, right and luckily, what ended up happening with COVID is a lot of online shopping.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And therefore a lot of brands then wanted to hire influencers to help get the word out about their you know products and brands, and so it actually ended up catapulting my business.
Speaker 3:Sure.
Speaker 2:Just as Amazon's business was catapulted. You know many businesses did during that time.
Speaker 1:And a lot of us are still completely addicted to not leaving the house if we want something Absolutely and having it delivered the next day, like well, this is pretty convenient and easy.
Speaker 2:I didn't know this Exactly, so so, yeah, so that's really where uh, uh, Fris and Frills started. And then in 2021, in November of 21, is when we launched Curlfriend Collective, which really was based off of Frizz and Frills and that community. And so I'm wearing, if you guys can see, you know, I'm wearing one of our products. It's only an audio podcast, it's okay, it's okay, I'll forgive you, it's only an audio podcast.
Speaker 1:It's okay. It's okay, I'll forgive you. See, if we had done that, they'd have to look at my hair.
Speaker 2:Okay, so we need to get you a Curlfront Collective headband. Yes, See I knew there was a reason I was doing this. My husband's already trying to get us to start men's athletic headbands or something I know Right.
Speaker 1:So maybe a future project. I'll tell you a story about that in a second Okay.
Speaker 2:So with the curls, I knew from my community on frizz and frills that there was a really a missing product set that was not only really good for the curls and not going to cause damage, breakage, all of that, but also something that was cute and was fashionable and, um, you know, really fit all of those things marketed to curls.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so function and style Exactly.
Speaker 2:Function and style and quality.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right.
Speaker 2:Actually good quality products, and so I was like I think we have something here that my community needs, and so we just started it out with two different scrunchies and a scarf, so three products in November of 21. And now we have probably 60 plus SKUs and we're growing at almost 100% rate.
Speaker 1:We're doubling our yeah this year and we're just about to hit our third year anniversary.
Speaker 2:Got some really exciting stuff coming this fall and into next year. So some things I can't speak about.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But some very exciting things, and we're now on our we're on our own website as well as on Amazon to as of this year, and so we have phenomenal scrunchies, all made from silk mulberry silk so there's a difference between silk and like satin.
Speaker 1:I'll pretend I understand. It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2:So basically, silk is the material.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Satin is the weave.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, I actually understand that. Hey, perfect, yeah, look Okay, I actually understand that Yay perfect. Yeah, look at me.
Speaker 2:So when people say silk satin, that means that it's actually made from silk which is a natural fiber and woven in a satin weave, got it. But a lot of people will think that satin, just when it's labeled as satin, means that it's silk Silk. But in reality there's satin polyester. That it's silk, but in reality they're satin polyester. And polyester is actually made from petroleum, aka plastic which means it will never leave our world.
Speaker 2:So we wanted to make something that was not only the quality which has a lot of beneficial qualities in that fabric but also is better for our environment, sustainable right.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's sustainable yes.
Speaker 2:So we chose. That was what we wanted to go down the road with, and our customers have been just absolutely phenomenal. We have a phenomenal repurchasing rate. We love serving the curly community and, yeah, we're excited to see what happens next year. Well, you are the poster child for take a leap and let me tell you, constantly, living on the edge, it feels like it sounds like you may have backed away from the edge a little bit.
Speaker 1:Sounds like things are pretty successful these days.
Speaker 2:Thank you so.
Speaker 1:I want to tell you my male headband story because I may have your first celebrity endorser.
Speaker 2:Okay, tell me, get us in contact.
Speaker 1:So, John Resnick from Goo Goo Dolls is playing our benefit this year. And John is known for his hair, and most women have the same reaction that crystals have.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, Johnny.
Speaker 1:And he and I were down at they were playing Summerfest this year and he and I were talking and getting ready for the thing and I had one of these in my hair. For those at home, I'm wearing basically a paper clip in my hair.
Speaker 2:It's like one of those headbands. That's like the zigzag that you have in the 90s? Yes, and it like combs through the front, which is when you have this kind of a rat's nest is all you can do.
Speaker 1:It's perfect and so John and I were talking and we were talking and all of a sudden he stopped and he goes where did you get that? Because he says, when he's on stage, because his hair is kind of similar to mine, it falls down into his face and all that. So I just sent him the Amazon link for the cheapo one I got here.
Speaker 2:But maybe John Resnick at Goo Goo Dolls can be your first celebrity endorser. Okay, this is now on the 2025 trajectory.
Speaker 1:In January at the Joey Song Benefit. I'll get you guys together and you've got your celebrity endorser. Perfect Done, yes.
Speaker 2:Perfect Done. Yes, my husband will be so happy because he literally for the last two months is like so a men's headband, what do we do? He's got curls too.
Speaker 1:He's not wrong, I don't have curls, but I have hair that gets in my face and just something.
Speaker 2:I see some texture in there.
Speaker 1:There is actually when it gets long, does it? Yeah, I know, all right, crystal, you're up, tell us about you and what you're doing hi, yeah, I'm crystal k.
Speaker 3:Many know me as shamama because I'm the founder of soul tech sanctum, which is a 21st century spiritual community. When really I founded it a few years ago, after going down the rabbit hole of AI, I really started reading and studying everything I could on AI and it really put me through a dark night of the soul because it changed everything. How so. I mean, when you really look, I call AI man-made gods with superpowers. You're not wrong, I'm not wrong. It changes everything, and it changes everything fast, yes and so, and that was like digesting that. When you really take that in, it's a lot to. It changes, it reprograms everything within you, even to understand where we're going, where we're at Right, and even our relation to other beings. I mean it just it goes wild.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3:So that was really challenging but I kind of came out of it, finally realizing that technology is natural, it's really what we do with it and actually that technology is actually an external reflection, especially where it's going right now with Web3. It's an external reflection of the superpowers we've always had in our soul technologies, immortality, be know, you know, be able to create your own reality, like all these things. It goes on and on. So I realized, and then I also started seeing that, like in all the spiritual calendars and even in all the oral traditions and a lot of indigenous traditions, they talk about this time right now, that we are at here now and that it's an evolutionary time. It's a, it's a quantum leap for humanity and the earth. And I realized that in that, in these evolutionary times, we must come together in community. We need community again. We need our power tools like sacred medicines and crystals, and we need 21st century spiritual skills.
Speaker 3:And I call it the thrive or die times. There's no more survival. You're either thriving or there's heaven and there's hell. Now it's like the great divide. You can see that in the inequality gap. You can see it everywhere. It's getting faster, worse and worse. You can actually see the exponential rate that I was talking about for a while. With technology, with even chat, gpt, it's exponential. It's not an airplane taking off, computer technology is not doubling in speed anymore, it's it's just going straight up and it gets wild and disorienting. And so, um, so, yeah, so building a spiritual community, community that's doing really well, um, and yeah, so that's what I do.
Speaker 1:So you provide what the, and forgive me if I use weird terms because I'm not with it. You provide, like, the tools to help people understand deal. Yeah, I have no vocabulary.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, so we work. So basically we provide a lot of gatherings, ceremonies, skill building, access to sacred medicines like Cambo. So I serve medicine like cambo, which is a deeply cleansing and rebalancing medicine.
Speaker 1:So, um, yeah, like that okay, so you give people different tools to use depending on where they are in the process. If they're like my dad, who's 88 and still can't answer his cell phone probably needs even more help, right right and really it's the community too.
Speaker 3:The way I see it too, it's the community too. The way I see it too, it's the time of co-creation. It's a time of coming together and learning from each other. So it's not really about, like, learning from me per se. It's really about learning from the community, because we're all waking up, all of our superpowers are coming online. You know of intuition and whatnot, and so and I really see a lot of that actually in Joey's song with the co-creation and the community, I feel like what was really palatable about Joey's song was that it really felt like a family.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, I could talk, yeah, the stories I could tell you about the back conversation between the artists that's even going on now for January. You know people that knew of each other but didn't know each other are now deep friends and they're working to collaborate on it. Yeah, that is. That is absolutely true, which I think is what I'm so passionate about Joey's song, cause I can like feel that and that is my big passion in general is co-creation and community, and it is so beautiful.
Speaker 3:And then what you are all feeling, we all feel in the the audience, like it is so palatable and it's so fun, like the whole concert. It's not just the music, it's the vibe, it. You can tell that everybody is having a blast, both the fans that know all the artists, and the artists themselves, who get to work with their favorite artists like it's just so cool and there's nothing like it no, that I.
Speaker 1:I won't do any false modesty. No, there's nothing.
Speaker 1:I will say it wasn't anything planned I I'll tell the quick origin story of how what joey sung is developed. So we originally started out by selling cds. You gotta put your mind back to 2010, back when people which is, of course, right around the time when the world decided they were never going to pay for another piece of music again unless they paid 004 cents per stream. So the CDs didn't go very well, but we would hold a benefit concert, a CD release party, and those went fine and, like the rest of the music business, I figured out that you make more money now unless you're people we refer to by one name taylor, beyonce, bruce, those people you make more money off of the live performance than you do off recorded music.
Speaker 1:So fast forward a little bit. Butch. Butch big and his band played the know-it-all boyfriends, played a show at the majestic and he had done a some press the beginning of the week and, being the good pt barnum advocate that he is, he said I think it was duck moe or rob thomas, one of the one of the column. And, being the good PT Barnum advocate that he is, he said I think was duck mo or Rob Thomas, one of the one of the columnists. He said you know, you never know who's gonna show up at a know-it-all boyfriend show. So of course my phone's going crazy because think of all the people that butch has worked with, whether it's Dave Grohl or Billy Corgan or Billy Joe Armstrong from Green Day or you know, and they're all going. So who's show?
Speaker 2:And I had no idea he had done this. Everybody's on the edge of their seat, and I was too, and so I.
Speaker 1:I hadn't had a chance because it was the week of the show and I was super busy afterwards. So after the show, it was September and we were sitting outside at Jenna's plug in for Christie's place, outside sitting at Jenna's afterwards having a beer, and I having a beer, and I told him the story. I said man, you wasted half a day for me by me having to answer the phone. We both kind of laughed and said you know, it's the salesman in me. And we both stood sat there for a good 30 seconds because neither one of us is very bright and we were tired and had a few beers in this. We both kind of looked at each other and said that's a really good idea. So we decided so.
Speaker 1:The next year we invited some friends some of his friends to come and play and now since then it has just snowballed into this because now we have friends of friends. Like you know, chris collingwood was there in 2019 and he's the one that recruited k hanley and k recruited gail and tanya and they're the ones that got us to the bangles and all this other stuff. So it truly is. Now I'm doing much less recruiting of artists than I used to do, because my artists do it for me, because they're like and I understand they've all got to come and see it before they're going to do it.
Speaker 1:Just to make sure I've made the joke before that. It's not. You know, butch playing a washboard and me playing a comb and tissue paper, right?
Speaker 3:That it's a. Thing.
Speaker 2:But once they do, it's like I like I've got people you know, they all want to come.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's good beauty and community right that's where it all started was community that's right and that's why the fun that, yeah, you're mentioning comes through, and that's right, very clear and I love how you are really leaning into that side of it now, like even from last year's concert or two years ago to this last year's concert.
Speaker 3:You know, now you have the Battle of the Bands and you're really into it, not just being a concert, but really being an experience and fun for everybody. You could tell the band were having a blast during that battle well, I'll tell you the story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you guys are great here. I was like you're interviewing me. That started after the one two years ago was we're walking out after the show and I was with Tanya Donnelly and Gail Greenwood and Kay Hanley, who were such an injection of energy into the whole thing that year that they came in. That took the thing into a next level. And as they're walking out I think it was Gail, because usually Gail's the one that says this kind of stuff she's. We got to put together the know-it-all girlfriends and all four of us just kind of stopped and looked at each other and went yes, we do and that was absolutely the highlight of last year that battle of the bands and of course as always, the girls took it to the next level with the signs Falling asleep on the monitors when the know-it-all boyfriends were playing Like this is so boring.
Speaker 3:And they were commenting how like we Midwesterners are too nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And we were just so nice.
Speaker 3:And we were, like you know, during the battle. It was pretty funny yeah it was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all of this and maybe this gets to the genesis of your business all this is because of what the community has done. I'm just in the middle of it and trying to keep all the plates spinning. For those of you old enough to remember the Ed Sullivan show, right, all the plates, all the plates spinning. But it's all these good ideas that come in and it's about executing them. So it's it is. It's a ton of fun. It's so fun.
Speaker 2:And we're so excited to see the growth that's happened this year.
Speaker 3:I'm sure it's a lot to plan I can only imagine Any teasers you can give us, yes, Well, so we are doing five kind of call them regular concerts the week leading up to it.
Speaker 1:Wow, so many of the bands the Bangles, belly, portugal, the man, silver Sun, pickups, laura Jane, the Know it All Boyfriends are all going to do full concerts the week leading up to it. So between the Sylvia and the Majestic, we're going to do?
Speaker 2:Oh yes, I did see that on the lineup. The Majestic is going to be part of it.
Speaker 1:It's part of it too. So we're going to have these big bands in these small venues and then everybody's going to stick around for Saturday and still do the big hoopla thing, I like to pretend like it's oh my God, what a burden.
Speaker 1:But actually it's not going to be. It's not like I'm doing six versions of that Saturday night. It's going to be more of the. You guys go out, do your set, which I think will be great, because you know I'm looking around here to make sure nobody's listening. But obviously all the artists are going to be in town all week, right and so, and we staggered them. So the shows at the Majestic are going to be matinee shows, 5 to 7.30. And then the shows at the Sylvia at Night are going to be 8, so everybody can go to everything. Well, they're all going to be at each other's shows. So I think it's going to turn into about six mini Joey song things.
Speaker 2:That's so exciting, that is fun when I was talking to some of them about travel.
Speaker 1:Well, you're not playing until friday, so you don't have to come in until thursday. Like yeah, but what if we miss something?
Speaker 3:there's a huge thing of fomo going through all the community aspects.
Speaker 2:Right, there is people wanting to be a part of the entire thing it is absolutely true.
Speaker 1:Let's talk a little bit about charity and giving back, though, because there's a million charities, all of them worthwhile. I have said, you know, when I first started joey song and was recruiting sponsors, I would at first kind of get offended not offended, but kind of grumpy when somebody would say no. And then I realized these businesses get hit five ways till sunday and we're no better than Gigi's Playhouse or Special Olympics or Alzheimer's Association. You guys, I'm sure, get hit a lot too, especially with your position as influencers and community leaders as well. What is it when you're looking for a cause to get behind? What are some of the things other than just the cause? Because, like I said, we're no better than the American Cancer Society or, like I said, gigi's Playhouse or Gio's Garden.
Speaker 2:What resonates with you guys when you're looking at something to get behind Well, not to hit on it again but I think community is a big piece of it, and also that there's a local piece, and so I do feel that Joeyey song hits that in multiple, multiple areas yeah and and there's also an educational piece that you provide at these shows that I personally didn't know much about epilepsy before the the one I attended two, two years ago now um, when that one a year and a half ago right, yeah, but um, you know, I I just thought, you know, as most people probably think, that it's like oh okay, I know it's something with you have a seizure.
Speaker 1:You fall down on the floor.
Speaker 2:You know that there there's something that you know triggers it. Yeah, and that's pretty what much all I knew and I loved that there was so much education added to the show.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, in a way that didn't take away from this Correct.
Speaker 2:So smooth and interesting, exactly, interesting, exactly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, um, I really appreciate, appreciate how much you all give. Like you know, sometimes you get invited to things and it's like you know we'll feed you a couple two appetizers.
Speaker 1:You know Two appetizers. Yeah, right, you know $200. And here's a drink chicken. Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, he's usually worth it Right Now. Where's the money?
Speaker 3:I mean, you guys are giving so much it's like wait who's giving to?
Speaker 1:who here Like really?
Speaker 3:I mean, the value is insane, and then, on top of that, the fact that it goes towards something is just incredible. You just feel so good about everything.
Speaker 1:Well, so your point about community? Now I'm going to put a pitch in for the artist. I don't know if you guys know that or not, but to the folks at home, none of those artists take a penny for the performance.
Speaker 2:Wow, I didn't know that. That is a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3:So I don't know, wow, I don't know.
Speaker 1:And they all come in four or five days ahead of time, so I don't know what, but the record. But it's not two beers and a ham sandwich, which is what he gets from me. So that's the other thing to keep in mind. And now that I've extended it, I mean these folks are going to be coming in on Tuesday or Wednesday and staying till Sunday and none of them are taking a penny for it. So that gets back to that sense of community that you're talking about, and they're still trying to recruit other people.
Speaker 1:Hey come to Madison when it's super cold and not get paid anything it's gonna be amazing yeah it's gonna be so great, you're gonna sing everybody else's songs, but for some reason for some reason it works well, that also is probably an ode to you, mike as well as much as you probably don't want to toot your own horn I'll toot, toot it for you seriously it's incredible what you created well, thank you, it's all indivisible package right all the stuff.
Speaker 1:I've got great artists now that you know so many of them that we talked about Kay and Butch that are in, I mean in all in, kind of all in, and that helps too. And it does help when a charity is focused on kids. That's always kind of an extra soft spot for us. So it does all kind of work together. All right, we've touched on it a little bit, but talk about so. You were at the one two years ago. Talk about your favorite Joey song memory, or is there something in that?
Speaker 3:evening.
Speaker 1:It doesn't even have to be something that happened on stage, but something in it that resonates. I'm going to ask you next, crystal maybe I go first.
Speaker 3:I was there last year, yeah, I mean there were a lot of moments, like the sing-alongs with Corey Chisel are always just like epic everybody's just swaying and singing and hugging and loving life, and then and singing and hugging and all that life, and then, honestly, charlie Barron's singing.
Speaker 2:I know that was one of my favorite experiences too, right.
Speaker 3:Like.
Speaker 1:Charlie.
Speaker 3:Barron's singing, because you know we get them on social media and stuff, but we don't get them singing and then they're always just hilarious, like they're just rolling.
Speaker 1:But see, that's the thing. We can make fun of ourselves, if anybody else makes fun of us yeah yeah, but since Charlie's one of us, he can make fun of Wisconsin and all that other stuff. He's one of us. He's one of us. He's just a kid from Fond du Lac.
Speaker 3:Well, and it's funny for me because I'm from California- so I feel like I learn a lot about Midwesterners through Charlie Barron Like literally.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh yeah, that's the way my husband talks all the time I get it now.
Speaker 3:It's a Midwest thing, it is Like the drink fridge.
Speaker 2:We got one.
Speaker 1:We got a fridge for the garage.
Speaker 3:My husband, literally just filled it with drinks. I was like what is this?
Speaker 1:This is for my batch cooking. No, I did it, it's a total.
Speaker 2:Midwest thing. Just as much as you need a cheese drawer, she's not wrong.
Speaker 1:She's not wrong, she's not wrong at all.
Speaker 3:So yes, I love Charlie Barron's and singing along and just all the classics that come on where, like, everybody just gets all riled up and honestly, seeing the super fans in the audience you can just tell like they are just like so happy.
Speaker 2:And that's kind of what I was going to say too, with the interaction with the audience, that's something you don't always get with every single concert type you attend to, so being able to get involved and there's always something to interact, you're not sitting right, you are very much, so you're standing you're dancing, you're enjoying, you're singing, singing along, whether it's somebody that you know with or a new artist that you haven't heard before.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I feel like I hadn't really realized it until now that we're reflecting on it. But it's a very big venue, but it feels so intimate. And I just realized it's the community, it's the family feel, it's that interaction. The Sylvie is a beautiful thing. Yes, it is. They have like it's that interaction.
Speaker 2:The Sylvie is a beautiful thing. Yes, it is, they have done everything right at that place. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think the other part of it that keeps you I don't want to say guessing, but engaged is.
Speaker 3:You never know what's going to come next either what song are they going to do or? Who's going to walk out, or you know when we go see any of our favorite artists you know the 42 songs that they're going to do, or?
Speaker 1:you know, whatever it is, oh, he hasn't played born to run, yet bruce has got to play that or whatever it is with this. You don't know and to be honest, and I'll whisper it in the microphone, sometimes the bands don't know what they're playing next that's right.
Speaker 3:Wasn't there a spinny thing last year? We had to play what was fun.
Speaker 2:But that's a beautiful thing, it was so fun and it creates more excitement with on the stage and in crowd.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you two quick stories, because I have no musical talent whatsoever, really.
Speaker 2:This is actually surprising. I am totally surprised. You got the hair for it. What's going on? I'm just a poser.
Speaker 3:I'm just a poser, you fit right in.
Speaker 2:Well, that's it. I can talk the talk.
Speaker 1:That's all I can do, but I can't sing the words. My son's got all the talent. I don't have any of the talent. Two moments that show how amazing these folks are. Several years ago 2019, so the last show we did at the Barrymore and again, big news we actually rehearsed that year. We had never done that before the band actually rehearsed. So we rehearsed the day before, been rehearsing all day and everybody was kind of closing up and Alex Drossert, the guy that plays keyboards for all the band, started playing the riff from Drive the car song.
Speaker 2:Who's?
Speaker 1:Gonna Drive you Home.
Speaker 3:You know that one.
Speaker 1:And he says he has no musical talent and he started playing the riff and everybody just kind of stopped for a second, started unpacking their gear. Corey literally pulled up the lyrics on his phone. They went through it one time and said we should do that tomorrow night. What Ran through it one time was not on the list.
Speaker 2:That's talent.
Speaker 1:Then the other one was two years ago, the one that you would have been at. We had Dave Perner from Soul Asylum and they had done Take the Skinheads Bowling at the end of the Soul Asylum set. But when they were rehearsing it, Butch obviously got in his head that we should do more. Dave Lowery is in Cracker and Camper Van Beethoven those are both his bands and so the night before Butch had maybe had one too many whiskeys and was running around going, we got to do that song low by Cracker, hey, hey, hey. Like being low that song. Yes, that was Friday night. The show was the next day. They ran through it in soundcheck and killed it. Wow, yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 3:They and killed it. Wow yeah, that's awesome. So these, they've got to be loving that flexibility. That's got to be so satisfying for them at that talent level because they know they can pull it off, and for you to give them that freedom. And then we feel that spontaneity too.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And how excited they are. It's not like they did it a thousand times already and this is their thousandth concert, and there's two elements to that.
Speaker 1:There's the this moment will never happen again side of it right because like when they did take the skinheads bowling, it was perner on vocals and chris collingwood from phones, and wayne on guitar and butch on drums and freedy and gail and tanya singing back. I mean that that combination, even if dave perner sings, take the skinheads bowling some other time, it's not going to be that configuration right. So it's that it's never going to happen again. And then it's the when they go out on the road they play the same set every night, you know, and so I think it's a combination of both of those things that hopefully the audience feels, because, you know, the artists are like little kids.
Speaker 3:We definitely feel it, you know.
Speaker 2:I agree yeah.
Speaker 3:Because the artists are like little kids. We definitely feel it.
Speaker 1:I agree Again, just serendipity and it's evolved. But I think that is part of what makes it fun.
Speaker 3:And like nothing else. That's the thing. You can't find this anywhere else.
Speaker 2:I've never been to a fundraising event that is like Joey's. There is nothing like it. Genuinely.
Speaker 3:And there's a reason why you have such an incredible turnout even a concert like concerts are like this either like on both sides of it, you're getting complete originality and value, like fun, it's just. The list goes on and on. Thank you, agreed, it's a good work very pleased with where it's going.
Speaker 1:I'm really glad that you guys are on our side, yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm excited to see where it's going too. Yeah, I know we're excited for this year. Yeah, we'll see where it's going how long that can hold up. Oh, you got this. Let's put that hair back in a ponytail.
Speaker 1:Well, once I get one of those new male scrunchies.
Speaker 2:See, we'll get you. See, you do need a scrunchie. I'm going to get, I'll tie it back, but that's putting it up. Okay, I don't man, I don't man bun it. If that's what you're asking, okay, okay, but you just like we'll pull it back.
Speaker 1:Pull it back because it gets in because I like my food and, if it gets in, my yeah, yeah, it's a whole it's a whole therapy session that I.
Speaker 3:I can't afford your rates. We do have microphones. Yeah, yeah, I can't. I'm so into that.
Speaker 1:Chloe and Crystal. Thank you so much for the chat today. Thanks for being there for us and thanks for being excited about Joey's Song.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 2:And thank you for what you do. Thank you for having us. We're excited for this in January. Yeah, we are too All right, everybody.
Speaker 1:That's the end of this Joey's Song podcast. Stick around, something new is coming next week. Thanks for joining us for the Joey Song Podcast. Remember to visit our website, joysongorg. Follow us on all our social media handles, which are at Joey Song. We'll see you guys at the show. Oh geez, sorry about the record scratch. Wait a minute. I forgot one thing. If you want to help us spread the word about Joey's song in our podcast, there's a few things you can do that are real simple that will help us. One of the things you can do is follow the show wherever you get your podcast, give us a five-star review I mean, why wouldn't you and write a review. All of these things help our podcast and our cause get more traction and seen throughout the community. And if you wanted to tell a few friends about Joey Song and the podcast, that would be great as well. And, of course, you can visit joeysongorg and follow us on social media. All of our handles are at Joey Song. Okay, I think that's it. We will see you guys at the show.
