Joey’s Song
Joey's Song raises money to fund research into treatments and cures for epilepsy. We host concerts featuring Rock Roll Hall of Famers, Grammy winners and Top 40 artists. On the podcast we talk with our artists, industry leaders and our key contributors to find out what makes Joey's Song so important to them.
To learn more about Joey's Song visit us at Joeyssong.org and follow us on social media @joeyssong on all the popular platforms.
Joey’s Song
Chris Bontempo - Corporate CMO & Board Member
What if you could channel your passion for music and sports into a powerful force for good? Join us as we sit down with Chris Bontempo, the dynamic CMO of Johnson Controls and a devoted board member of Joey's Song, to uncover the fascinating story of his career journey, which began at IBM and now thrives at Johnson Controls. Chris shares captivating insights into the history of Johnson Controls, starting with Warren Johnson's groundbreaking invention of the first electric thermostat in 1884, and reflects on how his professional path intersects with his love for music and soccer. Listen in as we explore how these passions have fueled his commitment to Joey's Song, a charity dedicated to enhancing epilepsy research and patient services through unforgettable music-driven events.
Our conversation doesn't stop at corporate success and charitable endeavors. Chris takes us behind the scenes of hosting clients at high-profile sports events like the World Cup and Super Bowl, emphasizing the importance of relationship-building. We share memories of reconnecting with the music scene through concerts and discovering new bands, highlighting the magic of live performances. The episode culminates with an enchanting recapitulation of the Joey's Song benefit in Madison, Wisconsin, where community and music come together in extraordinary harmony. From mingling with celebrated musicians to witnessing awe-inspiring performances, this episode celebrates the enduring power of music in enriching both personal and professional lives, all while making a meaningful impact.
Visit www.joeyssong.org to learn more about Joey's Song and the work we do and get details on our next set of shows. Also be sure to follow us on all popular social media platforms with our handle @joeyssong
Joey's Song is a federally registered 501(c)3 charity that raises money to fund research into treatments and cures for epilepsy. Joey's Song is 100% volunteer with no paid staff, so we are able to convert more dollars into life saving research.
Our Joey's Song family of artists include Rock N Roll Hall of Famers, Grammy and Emmy winners and Top 40 hitmakers.
Hey everybody, welcome to the Joey Song Podcast. I'm your host, Mike Gamal. For those of you that are new to Joey Song, we're a 501c3 charity that raises money to fund research into treatments and cures for epilepsy. We also direct funds to support patient services and community programs as well. Our fundraising vehicle is music. Every year, we hold a series of concerts that feature Rock and Roll Hall of Famers, Grammy winners and Top 40 hit makers. These amazing artists all come to Madison, Wisconsin, each January for a festival that we call Freezing man. You should know that every one of the artists that plays at our event donates their time and talent. None of our performers take a penny to join us. We have no paid staff. We are a 100% volunteer organization. The next Freezing man is scheduled to take place January 8th through the 11th 2025, with six amazing shows scheduled over four days. To find out more about Joey's Song, you can find us at our website, joey'ssongorg, or follow us on social media, where all of our handles are at Joey's Song.
Speaker 1:Hey everybody, welcome to the Joey's Song podcast. My guest today is the CMO of Johnson Controls, the global CMO. That sounds very lofty, and it is, I guess, but to me he's my friend, Chris Bontempo, who I've known for 20 plus years. We used to work together at IBM. We have stayed in touch and bonded over music and soccer and now Joey's Song. He's a board member and he talks a little bit about how music influences his life, how he still, to this day, when he's traveling, tries to find ways to find other music ventures, and just gives you a good insight into his background and why he is a big proponent of Joey Sung. So stick tight, Listen to my conversation with Chris Bontempo.
Speaker 1:Hey everybody, Welcome back to the podcast. Today I am talking with somebody who has a deep and rich history with yours truly. It is our board member and CMO at Johnson Controls, Chris Bontempo, Cboe. How are you? Great Glad to be here, hey, Mike. So let's just get all the unpleasantness out of the way right to begin with. So Chris was my boss at IBM. Neither one of us is there anymore. So Chris and I have known each other for quite a long time and have a deep and rich history. Is that a good way to describe it, Chris?
Speaker 2:Deep and rich would be the politically correct way to say that I appreciate the sensitivity around that but yes.
Speaker 2:I think we've known each other almost 20 years now and I would think those deep IBM roots you bleed blue-ish and I've carried that on, actually in my new role, which I started in May, as chief marketing officer at Johnson Controls another blue company and somehow a company actually older than IBM, really IBM. Ibm is 114 years old and Johnson Controls, started in your glorious home state of Wisconsin at University of Wisconsin-Whitewater, is 140 years old. That was Warren Johnson 1884.
Speaker 1:I did not know that. What was the first product?
Speaker 2:So let's tell some stories, mike and this is not a marketing pitch for Johnson Controls, but this is a cool story.
Speaker 2:So Warren Johnson was a professor of, I think, mathematics at the University of Wisconsin-Whitewater and he was really frustrated in 1884 because every time he was giving a lecture or talking to his students during class time, the janitor would have to come in once an hour to check the temperature of the room. And so, like if it was too hot or too cold, janitor would come in, check the temperature and then would have to walk downstairs and adjust the dampers on the furnace to adjust the temperature in the room. And it's just like us looking at our you know our mobile devices all the time and it distracting, you're like distracting you, and then you have to reset your attention. The same thing was happening in 1884. So Warren Johnson invented the first electric thermostat that would tell the janitor, like the first one just told the janitor outside the classroom what the temperature was and they could adjust it without having to come into the classroom. So Warren Johnson patented that, formed a company around it and the rest is history, as they say Wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know if I could. I think I could tell partially the Herman Holleruth slash Watson story, but probably not to that detail. So you've done very well, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2:You've done very well.
Speaker 1:Yes, whitewater. So now we'll see how deep you've gotten in. Do you know what the University of Whitewater nickname is? You know, like we're Wisconsin Badgers? Do you know what Whitewater is? I do not. The Warhawks the Whitewater Warhawks. They are a division three football powerhouse. They've won the national championship like three times in the last dozen years or so. So you will. I'm sure you'll be doing a tour of that. So Chris and I worked together at IBM and went through a lot of the wars together, and I when it was time to really build a serious board here at Joey song is. So Chris and I, as you can probably tell, have a very good kidding relationship with each other and while we can be deadly serious, most of the time we're not. And when I realized I needed some some true marketing skills on the board, I reached out to Chris and he very generously said yes to that. But talk a little bit, chris, about your journey from being a wet behind the ears young IBMer to where you are today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thanks, mike. I mean, when you asked for some marketing help on the board, at first I looked over my shoulder to see make sure you were talking to me.
Speaker 1:Well, Judith wasn't available, so I had to do it Happily retired Mike Judice. Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Pour one out for our good friend.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:So it's funny, I've had 20 plus years in marketing at large companies and actually years in marketing at large companies and actually before that I had a whole career before I even joined IBM. So it's been. When I talk to people about the career trajectory and journey, I always try to make the point that these things are not linear. No, they are not always upward and to the right. There's trials and tribulations along the way and what you need to be is opportunistic accepting of risk, which human beings are really terrible at, and energetic and engaged throughout. Those are the things that make the difference. I started off like all great stories coming out of college. My career started with a girl I followed. I just started dating a girl and she was moving to Paris right after school and I knew that if I let her go to.
Speaker 2:Paris that she'd be very quickly dating a French guy on a motorcycle Silicon Galois.
Speaker 1:Silicon Galois yes, drinking Merlot, yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know the, I do. Yeah, so I, on a lark, just went to Brussels. I stalked her, moved to Brussels, spent three years working there for an American law firm and just focused on having fun, figuring out how to date the girl and having fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and Brussels, having been to Brussels, brussels is a good place to do all that. I didn't do the girl chasing in there, but I did the two ends of the fun. It's a great place, yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, at that age it's perfect. So I did that for three years, came back to New York with the girl and started working in New York again for the law firm as an economist not a marketer, right. So then the girl got into law school in upstate New York and I of course went along and that's when I broke into the tech industry. So I found a job in Canada with a tech company. They hired me because I knew who they were. It was the internet era. They would hire anybody and they made me a marketing analyst. I had no idea what a marketing analyst was, but I broke in that way and so I did that.
Speaker 2:They spun off my group into a startup, ran the startup for three years. We ran that into the ground, ran out of money and then I went to business school and when I came out of business school, that's when I turned into big business with IBM. But my the whole point of that trajectory is that be opportunistic and be focused on your life just as much on your career. The spoiler alert is that I married the girl. We had three kids.
Speaker 1:I was. I was, even though I, even if I didn't know that, I was pretty sure you weren't going to keep her in the thread if that wasn't, if that wasn't her roommate was, so yeah.
Speaker 2:The writer's room would have written her out of the story Much earlier, much earlier, it would have been someone to some, yeah, so IBM.
Speaker 2:So IBM 19 years at IBM before I left for for JCI 19 great years actually. I started off as a competitive, competitive marketer. You might know that I'm a highly competitive person. Might've realized this at. I started off as a competitive marketer. You might know that I'm a highly competitive person. You might have realized this at some point. I did that. Then I went into brand marketing for a couple of years. We launched a campaign that people might remember called Smarter Planet, which was a big, big, big brand campaign, led market intelligence for IBM in North America. That's where our paths really crossed and took that one into a quick shift, because I was terrible at this job as the chief of staff or executive assistant for IBM's chief marketing communications officer.
Speaker 1:I was not going to bring up that little blip, but when you talked about things not being a straight line, I thought that might be appropriate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was an interesting time, probably not for the podcast, but a great time. Great CMO, cco that I supported there. The problem it was it's like it's not you, it's me. The problem is me in that job.
Speaker 1:You know, I to sidetrack us here for a second. I think I'm going to start a second podcast because I did one this morning with another one of our board members, andrew Gumpert, who was a chief executive at Paramount and Nickelodeon, but he was at Sony during the hack, right, remember the big hack? Yeah, I didn't realize that we're talking today and I was like, oh, we're doing another podcast, so maybe I'll do stories you can't tell with Joey Song podcast. I'll have him tell Sony and you can talk about your time in the CMO's office. So, yeah, there we go, there we go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I did that for a little bit and then I that into. After I crashed out of that one, joined, became the marketing leader for a small business that IBM was just getting into called Cloud, and you know it was a small thing becoming a very big thing very quickly.
Speaker 2:So I did that. And then I joined our cybersecurity marketing team and that's where I really found myself as a professional. So I did seven years as our cybersecurity marketing leader for the Americas, turned that into CMO for the Americas and then, after three great years leading the big IBM Americas marketing team, joined Johnson Controls this May as the global chief marketing officer.
Speaker 1:I was just going to say you're no longer constrained by our borders, are you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no boundaries can constrain me at all.
Speaker 1:Now I know, as in the last few years you got to go to really cool stuff like World Cups and US Opens, and I would follow you on social media being jealous as all get out. Now I don't know if Johnson Controls quite has. I'm sure you'll spend a lot of time at Fiserv Forum, but I'm not sure you'll necessarily be at World Cups. I don't know, maybe you will.
Speaker 2:Yes. So two important things here. Number one I think the key to success in these kind of gigs and jobs is a marketer is to really get to know your customers, and so I had the privilege of doing a lot of client hosting at many, many events, including a lot of incredible sports events. So, yeah, I was able to host customers at the World Cup in Qatar. So I was able to host customers at the World Cup in Qatar.
Speaker 1:I went to the Super Bowl, probably the best.
Speaker 2:Super Bowl I've ever seen, which was the Eagles Chiefs game in Arizona a couple of years ago all sorts of great events hosting great IBM clients. It's a great opportunity to spend a lot of time with them, quality time. You talk some business, you talk life, you talk family, you get to know each other and that just really helps you figure out the business side of things.
Speaker 1:It also helps make all your friends jealous too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is definitely definitely true. Yeah, but the you know the second part of that, mike, is music. So I always describe myself as a recovering musician. I started playing guitar when I was 13. I've played in bands all my life very bad bands. All my beer money in college came from playing in a blues band that played in the Pioneer Valley of Massachusetts. And then I found, you know, when I got out into the working world, you know you want to go to concerts. I used to go to tons of concerts. You want to be engaged in music and it's harder and harder, yeah. And so, as I was doing a lot of client travel around over the last 10 years, I just made a point, no-transcript. You, you always hear people say, oh, they just they don't. They don't do music like they used to they don't write music like they used to.
Speaker 2:It's not not like it was when I was growing up, and actually that's not true at all.
Speaker 2:It's just like you don't know, you're not, they are still doing it because you're not engaged in the music scene and so it was really refreshing when I started going back to music concerts at all. Back to music. You know concerts at all, like I go to a concert with a hundred other people at a small club in Austin to go see you know 25,000,. You know seat venue, you know in Nashville, if you can see great. They're still writing great music, they are still recording great music, they are performing great music with incredible live performances and you might just not know it yet.
Speaker 1:Well, I think that that's true. A couple things. I used to do that back in the 90s at IBM when I was making a lot of trips out to Bethesda in New York. I spent a lot of time at the 930 club in DC and would see a lot of the bands. I just again this, as you do these podcasts. I referenced stuff.
Speaker 1:I just did my podcast the other day with Chris Collingwood from fountains of Wayne and was telling the story of I actually found out they had put out their second album, cause I saw Glenn Tilbrook from squeeze in a small club in Bethesda are, and it wasn't the 930. It was a different one, but he went here's a new song by Fountains of Wayne and I was a big, like the first album. I didn't know they had put out the second one. It was Red Dragon Tattoo, which is one of my favorite songs and Chris wrote it. Point is, I used to do that too and then obviously going to New York whether it was Ir, you know, bottom line or all that as well. So, absolutely the case.
Speaker 1:But the bigger point on the music is I went through that phase, the grumpy old man phase of I'm going to listen to Aerosmith's first three records and you know that kind of stuff Right. And then I realized it's not that they're not making great music. You just have to try harder than back in the day when there was three radio stations in your town there was the top 40 station, there was the AOR station, there was the oldies station, so it was real easy to discover new music because you didn't have any choices. Well, now you actually kind of have to work at it a little bit more to find it, and as we age we get lazier, not more adventurous. So that's absolutely the case, and that's what Joey's song has helped me to do, like figuring out that, holy crap, portugal, the man is awesome, didn't know they were awesome. They're awesome, you know. And so I I'm completely with you on that. But it takes effort. It takes effort. It's real easy to fall back into. Hey, you kids, get off my lawn, then go find the new music, right?
Speaker 2:So yeah get out get out and play, as they always say, right.
Speaker 1:Absolutely and take it.
Speaker 2:I, joey-san, brought in. You brought in, you know, some of the talent from Silver Sun Pickups. You know last year's benefit, so I was in. I was in Dallas one night two years ago. Silver Sun Pickups was playing at a local venue. I had literally never heard them because I was just out of touch. I went and I saw them. I was blown away. They are super talented great songs, great songwriters, just really fun.
Speaker 2:And here's a great story. So the opener that night I went, I I caught the opener and I'm watching this woman perform and she's great, and I so I take a you know cell phone video and I send it to my 18 year old son. I'm like she is really like, look at this, this, like she's great, like the. She just has that natural performance. You know I would buy this you know album or whatever. Uh, and he's like oh that's great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's really cool. Who is that? I was like I don't know, I've never, never heard of her. Somebody, uh, paris Jackson, uh. And he's like, oh, okay, great. And then so I look her up afterwards I'm like Paris Jackson. Paris Jackson, it's Michael Jackson's daughter, seriously, wow. So some things, talent, part of it is genetics.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:But an unbelievable stage presence, unbelievable performance, good songs and she was for SS, sspu, serious, wow that. That's quite a combination, because yeah, and you discover this stuff? I would have had no idea, but it was fantastic yeah, yeah, silver sun is great.
Speaker 1:It's too bad you're not in milwaukee for doing this, because they were at the rave two nights ago I saw I saw it.
Speaker 2:For the audience. I do spend a lot of time now in Milwaukee because Johnson Controls is a Milwaukee. Well, our corporate headquarters in C over. We bonded over two things soccer and music.
Speaker 1:And other than convincing Mike Giudice that it's not called the arsenal, we just basically talked about our love for football.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about-.
Speaker 1:But actually, mike, we were wrong, wrong, I know it can be the arsenal, but he might hear this oh now you've ruined it. You can never let Jadis know he was right on anything.
Speaker 2:Oh God, this will be the test. This will be the test to see if he listens to the pod.
Speaker 1:Or whether I hit the edit button on this segment and move right past it, but music. So you're a couple of years younger than I am. What's the music you listened to growing up? What are your North Star bands from your college days?
Speaker 2:Well, so when you mentioned the 930 Club, I had flashbacks, because the 930 Club was where I spent a lot of my high school evenings when I was growing up outside DC. My older brother and I used to. We'd go to the nine 30 club at least once or twice a week to catch catch bands. So, my, my musical tastes back then, old REM replacements Husker do oh yeah, Got into Goo Goo Dolls.
Speaker 1:Who, by the way, john Resnick, is coming this year to Joey Song, lead singer from Goo Goo Dolls. Thank, by the way, john Resnick is coming this year to Joey Song, the lead singer from.
Speaker 2:Goo Goo Dolls.
Speaker 1:Thank you for the plug.
Speaker 2:Yep, you're welcome. Tee'd that one up for you.
Speaker 1:That was beautiful.
Speaker 2:I actually didn't actually know that, but that's good.
Speaker 1:Yep John's coming.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And then you know the big shows we go to see the Hoodoo Gurus, oh, go to see the hoodoo gurus, oh yeah, from australia, australian, yeah, yeah, um. And then, uh, and then branching out a little bit, like we, my dad loved jazz, so we go see lester, bowie's, brass, fantasy and, uh, you know, kind of cutting edge jazz stuff like that um, and then over the years I think I've my tastes have expanded. You know, I'll, literally I'll go see now anything, yeah, and I appreciate the musicianship, the craftsmanship, the, you know, the talent on stage and just the ability to get on stage and to perform at that level as you get older. I think you appreciate that more.
Speaker 1:No shit, absolutely, absolutely. So I knew your musical taste. I'm really. You have a very midwestern ethos to your music though, which is interesting because you're a coastal kid or a euro kid if you throw in your time in brussels, but I mean you're right in the midwest with replacements and husker and all of that stuff. And while Google was.
Speaker 2:Buffalo, that was where the action in the in the late eighties, early nineties? That was where the action was yeah. I mean in DC we had Fugazi and Jawbox and you know some great kind of hardcore bands that were coming up straight edge stuff that was always fun to go see. Yeah, I did branch out. I listened to a lot of reggae when I was at that age. Listened to, you know, from the UK I'd listen to the jam right, the Godfathers Easter house. You know the water boys remain one of my favorites.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I think Mike's, I think he's still putting out records too.
Speaker 2:I think that guy's written more songs and recorded more music than uh anybody, I know absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah that. That. That's great. So you fit right into our joey song demographic right. A lot of the bands that we have um tangentially or directly are are part of joey song. So you were able to come this past year for the first time and now I will let you heap tons of praise on me no, I'm kidding. So a lot of people are going to be listening to this because they know you. But describe to the folks what your impression of the Joey's Song benefit is was going forward.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'll start with this. I did not know what I was getting into when, I showed up in Madison, wisconsin, for this year's or the past Joey's Song benefit, so I brought my now 19-year-old son with me, who's a huge music fan, also a guitar player, and we spent two nights in madison in january and we're blown away.
Speaker 2:I'd like to apologize a little chilly, a little chilly um, but the? Um I didn't realize how much of a phenomenon the? Uh that weekend was. So you know, as soon as we got out of uh the car at our hotel, we saw uh k hanley um, from letters to cleo and you know, silver sun, pickups, talent, walking uh to rehearsal. I was like, oh, this is different. Yeah um, the first night wasn't the night of the benefit, but we went and caught uh uh, a show at the majestic yeah, greg's greg cox band played the greg yeah, like commercial yeah, he's an incredible guitar player.
Speaker 2:I mean, it was a great intro to things.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's he's unbelievable, uh, unbelievable.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and Ivy Ford opened up for him. Ivy Ford is incredibly talented too. Got to give a shout out to her if you haven't heard her. She gigs all around the Midwest, apparently, yeah, yeah. And then so the night of the benefit, I mean literally the entire town of Madison seems to show up, showed up at the Sylvie that night.
Speaker 2:I mean, it was you know sell out crowd, it was just packed with great, great fun people, all the auction stuff I had to. My son was going through all the auction stuff and I'm trying to reel him back a little bit, but it was really interesting stuff there. And then the performances start and it's just this great community of musicians and music. You hear stuff that you're not going to hear anywhere else.
Speaker 1:One-off performances, absolutely Right.
Speaker 2:It's. You know, these top tier, incredible musicians get together and they get to play the music that they love with you know other musicians who they won't get to play with anywhere else? And so you hear these like inspiring moments of like genius on stage and they're just pulling it off.
Speaker 1:Well, and there's also incredible a lot of joy in it too, because you're you're absolutely right the not getting to play with people that they don't normally play with songs they don't normally play because they're not part of the canon right, and in an environment where, um, you know, everybody's thrilled. If so, we need you to do hand claps on this one. All right, I'll do hand claps. You know what I mean. And the example that I always give, and you went again. People are going to think we rehearse this because you're the perfect straight man on this, but the, the example I give of those never going to be repeated moments was the year before you were there.
Speaker 1:Sola Sotham finished up their set. They did their two or three songs and then they did Take the Skinheads Bowling right the Camper Van Beethoven song with Butch Vig on drums, chris Collingwood from Fountains of Wayne on guitar, duke Erickson from Garbage playing bass, with the gals from Belly and Kay and Freedy singing backup vocals, with Perner singing lead when Perner may sing that song some other time, but not with that band. He's not. And and that's those it. The night is just full of those kind of moments, and that's what really is is super fun.
Speaker 2:I think of the human force of nature. Joanna Burrish is on the board. Yeah, she, she had the perfect phrasing for this. I wrote it down. I just looked it up in my notes here from a while ago when I first joined the board. But she called it an epic collaboration of amazing artists.
Speaker 2:And I think that's the best descriptor of what happens that evening. You see stuff and hear stuff you'll never hear anywhere else, so I think it's incredible when it all comes together. I will say this, mike, I loved the competition format from the past year. The know-it-all girlfriends the traditional versus the know-it-all girlfriends who came together for the first time and, honestly, the know-it-all girlfriends just blew them away.
Speaker 1:It's only going to be worse this year. We're working on the set list already. It's, it's it. Uh yeah, no see. The problem is, and I hope that some I hope that butch and everybody are listening. I'm sure they're not, but the problem is, the know-it-all boyfriends want to show you how cool their music is. The know-it-all girlfriends want to melt your face right, and they do it. They just they melt face yeah, it's very, very clearly.
Speaker 2:Uh, they were in face melting mode and, um, I I guess this is a call to action. I'm a marketer, so I'm always going to give you a call to action so know-it-all boyfriends uh, you need to get your. Your melting your face. Music and performance on this year.
Speaker 1:I think that's what it's going to take. I'm not optimistic because there's also just a talent gap there too. The girls are just better. You might need the edit button for that. I will, but it's not going to be the first time I've needed an edit button. Well, chris, I have a feeling you and I could do this for about another hour and a half just on the music stuff alone. But I want to personally thank you for all your support of Joey's song. You are now permanently locked in. Even if you take on a CMO job in Johannesburg, you're still going to be in Madison every January. I hope you bring Henry back and it's going to Henry back and it's going to be great. But I want to thank you for the emotional support and the professional support as well.
Speaker 2:Well, thanks for having me on this and thanks for having me on the board. It was an honor to be asked to join and actually an even greater honor that you kept me on after the first board meeting and all the trouble I probably caused. Yeah, so I appreciate that, and all the trouble I probably caused.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I appreciate that. Well, I think you know from your org. Behavior classes is everybody needs the example of what not to do on the board. So I'm able to reference that the phrase don't be a Bon Tempo. You're not on any of those notes, but the rest of the board is. So we're good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, as long as I'm useful in some capacity in the board. I'm happy to be on it.
Speaker 1:We all need a whipping boy and look.
Speaker 2:thank you to you for not just having me on but everything you're doing for this great cause and raising money to change people's lives. It's a fantastic cause and you do an amazing job leading this organization. So thank you, appreciate it. Chris, next time you're in Milwaukee, the Kurds are on me.
Speaker 1:Man. All right, sounds good. Thanks for joining us for the Joey Song podcast. Remember to visit our website, joysongorg. Follow us on all our social media handles, which are at joysong. We'll see you guys at the show. Oh geez, sorry about the record scratch. Wait a minute. I forgot one thing. If you want to help us spread the word about Joey Song and our podcast, there's a few things you can do that are real simple. That will help us. One of the things you can do is follow the show wherever you get your podcast, give us a five-star review I mean, why wouldn't you and write a review. All of these things help our podcast and our cause get more traction and seen throughout the community. And if you wanted to tell a few friends about Joey Song and the podcast, that would be great as well. And, of course, you can visit joeysongorg and follow us on social media. All of our handles are at Joey Song. Okay, I think that's it. We will see you guys at the show.
